Brad Pitt opened up to Dax Shepard on the latest episode of his podcast,Armchair Expert,which landed on Monday, June 23 The Oscar winner spoke about his time in Alcoholics Anonymous and said he didn't hesitate to open up due to how "desperate" he was when he began the program Pitt previously said he joined AA in 2016, around the time of his split from ex, Angelina Jolie Brad Pittis opening up about his experience with Alcoholics Anonymous. The 61-year-old Oscar winner opened up about the experience on the Monday, June 23 episode ofArmchair ExpertwithDax Shepard. The two actors also spoke about getting to know one another in an AA meeting. Pitt called AA an "amazing thing," noting, "I just thought it was just incredible men sharing their experiences, their foibles, their missteps, their wants, their aches, and a lot of humor with it. I thought it was a really special experience." Medios y Media/Getty Shepard, 50, who has been very open about hisstruggles with substance abuse and sobriety, wondered if Pitt was "nervous" to speak with him publicly after they met in AA, noting the "really heightened honesty and vulnerability" of the situation. But Pitt assured him that he was, "Quite at ease." ANGELA WEISS/AFP via Getty Pitt also shared that while he was a bit "shy" coming into the AA group, he also didn't hesitate to open up because of how low he was at that time. "I was pretty much on my knees, and I was really open," he told Shepard. "I was trying anything and everyone. Anything anyone threw at me. It was a difficult time. I needed rebooting. I needed to wake the f--- up in some areas. And it just meant a lot to me." XNY/Star Max/GC Images As well as referring to himself as a "stubborn f---," Pitt also noted some of his more positive qualities. "When I've stepped in s---, I'm pretty good at taking responsibility for it and owning up to it. And now it's a quest to, you know, 'What do I do with this? How can I right this?' And make sure it doesn't happen again." Pitt said that after a few sessions, AA meetings became "something I'd look forward to." TheF1star added that he approached therapy with a similar openness, saying, "When I jumped into therapy then, I was just like, 'And I did this and I did that and da da da da,' " calling his approach "desperate." Dax Shepard/Instagram "Yeah. You don't come into AA because everything's working out fantastic," Shepard agreed. "No. That's usually not the entry point," Pitt quipped in response. "It's not the winner's club," Shepard added. "Your hair has gotta be on fire before you go like, 'Yeah, I'll go hang with a bunch of dudes and talk about emotions.' " Never miss a story — sign up forPEOPLE's free daily newsletterto stay up-to-date on the best of what PEOPLE has to offer, from celebrity news to compelling human interest stories. Pitt first opened up about his time in AAin a 2019 profile for theNew York Times. He shared that he entered the program in 2016 after his ex,Angelina Jolie, first filed for divorce. "It was actually really freeing to just expose the ugly sides of yourself," he told the outlet of entering the program at the time. "There's a great value in that." Read the original article onPeople